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Although poker has a set of specific rules<\/a>, they don’t (and can’t) cover every possible situation that may happen at the tables.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As a result, there’s a fairly large grey zone where the rules aren\u2019t quite clear enough, opening up space for a practice known as “angle shooting” where people bend the rules for their advantage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In this article, we’ll cover what angle shooting means in poker<\/a>, some of the more common angle shoots, and how to protect yourself at the tables.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What Is Angle Shooting?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Angle shooting in poker is when someone does things that are questionable or unethical – but not strictly against the rules – to try and get an edge over another player.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While the practice is generally frowned upon by the community, there are plenty of players who\u2019ll take their chances walking the fine edge between what is and isn\u2019t allowed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Why Is Angle Shooting Bad?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

As mentioned, there is a fair number of players who don\u2019t see anything wrong with angle shooting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Their reasoning is that if they aren\u2019t breaking the rules, it’s no big deal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The problem with this line of thinking is that poker is a game of people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Just because something isn’t technically breaking the rules, it doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s acceptable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In every specific life setting, there is usually a set of unwritten rules that you are expected to follow. The same goes for poker etiquette<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And poor poker etiquette for the sake of gaining a small, short-term edge won\u2019t win you any popularity points.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Angle shooters usually aren\u2019t looked upon kindly, and other players will try to avoid them as much as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In fact, it can even prevent you from getting into some of the best games if you get a reputation for it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is because angle shooting can create a toxic environment where recreational players, who are crucial for the games to run, refuse to sit down and would rather spend their time and money doing something else.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It negatively impacts everyone, including persistent angle shooters, who have no one to blame but themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

5 Common Angle Shoots To Look Out For<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Although most of the poker community play by the rules, there will always be some players who try to cut corners and take advantage of unsuspecting victims.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So be prepared by getting to know some of the most common angle shoots in poker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1. Going South<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
\"Going<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

“Going south” is when someone secretly removes chips <\/strong>from the table during a live cash game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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For example, a player wins a big $2,000 pot playing $1\/$2, and they decide they don\u2019t want to risk it all in later hands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, they remove a few hundred from the table when no one is looking.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In most poker rooms, this isn\u2019t allowed, but penalties for going south are usually quite mild.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Another problem is that it\u2019s hard to prove if you don\u2019t notice it immediately.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is one of the most common angle shoots<\/strong> you\u2019ll encounter when playing live cash games as there are players out there who do it routinely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The reason why this practice is frowned upon is that all chips that are at the table should be in play at all times, unless a player decides to get up and leave.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sadly, calling someone out for going south can cause a lot of tension at the table and lead to some unpleasant situations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That\u2019s why many players decide to let it go and allow others to get away with it to keep the game going and avoid any drama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

2. Intentionally Hiding Big Denomination Chips<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
\"Hiding<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Another fairly common practice both in tournaments and cash games involves hiding big denomination chips behind the lower-value stacks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

By doing this, the angle shooter fools their opponents into believing they have fewer chips<\/strong> than they actually have, which can significantly impact someone\u2019s strategy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For example, you find yourself in a hand against someone you believe only has 15 big blinds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You flop a top pair with a decent kicker, and when they bet into you, you decide to put them all in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s only after they make the call that you see with horror the full stack of big chips sliding from behind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Unfortunately, there isn\u2019t much you can do at this point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While the other player was supposed to keep their big denomination chips in the clear view, the usual punishment for this is a slap on the wrist for them (maybe a few hands away from the table in a tournament and pretty much nothing in a cash game).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s one of the reasons you\u2019ll hear experienced players often ask someone how much they have left.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It may be annoying at times, but it helps avoid these things from happening.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When something like this happens to you in a big tournament, and ends up being the reason you bust, it really feels bad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, be sure to protect yourself, especially against players you know have done this in the past.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

3. Pump Fake<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
\"Pump<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

In poker, information is gold, and obtaining the relevant information during a hand isn\u2019t always easy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, some players will go to extra lengths to try and gauge a reaction from their opponent – including bending the rules.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The pump fake is one of the most common moves\nfrom this category. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is when the angle shooter will pick up a stack of chips and move them forward while holding them in their hand, seemingly announcing a bet or a raise<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

However, at the last moment, they\u2019ll pull the stack back and put it down with the rest of their chips.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This move is treated differently at different\nvenues. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

At some places, you can\u2019t get away with this kind of behavior, as any forward motion with your chips will be binding. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

However, some casinos and poker rooms aren\u2019t as strict and won\u2019t force the player to stick to their action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The<\/strong> main goal of this move is to try and gauge a reaction<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lesser experienced players may even go ahead and fold their hands immediately when they see the big stack of chips in the opponent\u2019s hand, which gives the angle shooter a massive advantage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If they don\u2019t get the desired result with their\npump fake, they\u2019ll take the bet back and reconsider.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Most casinos won\u2019t let someone get away with this repeatedly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if you find yourself at a table where someone is doing this over and over again, make sure to complain to the floor. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even if there isn\u2019t a specific rule to address\nthe issue, they\u2019ll usually talk to the player and warn them that if they do it again,\ntheir action will stand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

4. Mis-Declaring A Hand At A Showdown<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
\"Person<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Once all the bets are in and there is no action\nleft, it\u2019s time for cards to speak. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

However, some players like to do the actual speaking\nbefore letting their cards do it, and they do it to get you to muck your hand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Say your opponent bets, you call, and they announce a \u201cfull house.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even before they turn their hand, you throw your cards into the muck, only to see them turn over Ace-high. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

You\u2019re in shock that someone would lie so blatantly at a poker table, but this isn\u2019t all that uncommon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you call the floor, they can always say they were just joking. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Again, they might get a notice, while you may be out of a huge pot and a lot of money.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If a player was honestly just messing about, they might let you retrieve your hand or just straight up give you the pot. But don\u2019t count on it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even if such behavior is bad, it\u2019s your<\/em> responsibility to protect yourself against it as much as humanly possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To protect yourself from this particular type of \u201ccheating,\u201d you should never release your hand until all cards are face up. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you\u2019re first to show, table your hand unless you\u2019re certain you can\u2019t win. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Don\u2019t believe what anyone tells you<\/strong>, unless it\u2019s someone you\u2019ve known for years and you can be certain they\u2019d never pull such trick on you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Someone repeatedly miss-declaring their hand at a showdown will probably run into problems, but they don\u2019t need to do it all the time. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If they pull it off in one big pot, it\u2019s already given them a huge advantage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s up to you to take matters into your own\nhands here; don\u2019t count on anyone else to protect you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

5. Acting Out of Turn<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
\"Person<\/figure>\n\n\n\n

This is another move aimed at getting extra\ninformation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For example, a player may bet, and while you\u2019re\npondering what to do, you hear an angle shooter announce a call or a raise. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

This sneaky trick is designed to confuse you into making a wrong decision<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Of all angle shoots out there, this is the least elaborate and least effective one. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It only works if they succeed in their intentions of confusing you. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Otherwise, they\u2019ve just given you an extra piece of information you can work with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For example, in most poker rooms verbal actions are binding<\/strong>, even if they act out of turn and the action before them doesn\u2019t change. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if one player bets and you hear someone declaring a raise behind you while you\u2019re sitting there with a strong hand, you can just make a call. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now, the player who acted out of turn will be\nforced to raise, and when the action gets back to you, you can spring your\ntrap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What I will say is that you shouldn\u2019t feel bad about the poor guy acting out of turn when you\u2019re sitting there with a monster. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Often, they’re doing it deliberately, not by accident, so let them have a taste of their own medicine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Being a nice guy at the table is completely\nfine, but don\u2019t let others take advantage of you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Keep Yourself Safe From Poker Angle Shooters<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

There will always be some degree of angle shooting involved in poker. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

With a game that revolves around outsmarting your opponents, this is pretty much inevitable. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some behaviors are acceptable and tolerated,\nwhile others, like the ones described in this article, should be avoided at all\ncosts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you spend a fair bit of time playing poker,\nespecially in the live setting, you\u2019re bound to run into all sorts of situations.\n<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hopefully, with this guide, you\u2019ll be better prepared to handle them and avoid being taken advantage of at the tables.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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