{"id":28120,"date":"2021-06-08T07:24:10","date_gmt":"2021-06-08T12:24:10","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2021-06-09T03:24:32","modified_gmt":"2021-06-09T08:24:32","slug":"interview-sir-geoff-hurst-on-dementia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/blog\/interview-sir-geoff-hurst-on-dementia\/","title":{"rendered":"Exclusive Interview: Sir Geoff Hurst Speaks Out On The Issue Of Dementia In Football Players"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We sit down\nwith England\u2019s <strong>1966 World Cup final<\/strong> hat-trick hero, Sir Geoff Hurst, to\ndiscuss the issue of dementia in football players, and what can be done to help\nprevent this problem moving forward. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-wistia-inc\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"arve\" data-mode=\"normal\" data-oembed=\"1\" data-provider=\"wistia\" id=\"arve-wistia-mrz9iaeisj66ecc55c681e4686683251\" style=\"max-width:900px;\">\n<span class=\"arve-inner\">\n<span class=\"arve-embed arve-embed--has-aspect-ratio\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 500 \/ 281\">\n<span class=\"arve-ar\" style=\"padding-top:56.200000%\"><\/span><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen class=\"arve-iframe fitvidsignore wistia_embed\" data-arve=\"arve-wistia-mrz9iaeisj66ecc55c681e4686683251\" data-src-no-ap=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.net\/embed\/iframe\/mrz9iaeisj?dnt=1&amp;autoPlay=false\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"505.8\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-presentation allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox allow-forms\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/fast.wistia.net\/embed\/iframe\/mrz9iaeisj?dnt=1&#038;autoPlay=false\" width=\"900\"><\/iframe>\n\n<\/span>\n\n<\/span>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"http:\\\/\\\/schema.org\\\/\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.casino.org\\\/blog\\\/interview-sir-geoff-hurst-on-dementia\\\/#arve-wistia-mrz9iaeisj66ecc55c681e4686683251\",\"type\":\"VideoObject\",\"embedURL\":\"https:\\\/\\\/fast.wistia.net\\\/embed\\\/iframe\\\/mrz9iaeisj?dnt=1&autoPlay=false\"}<\/script>\n<\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Key Highlights:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><strong>Two key points need to be addressed, the amount of heading practice undertaken at clubs, and whether kids should begin heading the ball properly at such a young age:<\/strong><br><br><em>\u201cIn my position at West Ham, we had a ball in the gym hanging from the ceiling where you\u2019d spend half an hour heading a ball constantly. Then you go on the pitch, and we used to obviously work very hard at near-post crosses. You could spend 20 minutes, half hour on that. <\/em><br><br><em>So that&#8217;s got to be looked at in terms of the amount of practice. And secondly, whether you should look at stopping younger kids now, when they\u2019re just 10 years of age, not heading the ball particularly.\u201d <\/em><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><strong>Hurst believes that although you can\u2019t stop heading in games, it could be significantly reduced in practice:<\/strong><br><br><em>\u201cYou can&#8217;t argue that headings should be taken out, but you can argue quite strongly that when senior players practice at clubs, they can do a lot of practice without getting in position in the crossing, and practicing how they\u2019re going to approach things without constantly knocking the ball in and heading the ball. <\/em><br><br><em>You can still achieve the objective of where you want to be for a corner or a free kick. That can be done positionally without the huge amount of heading. So that&#8217;s certainly got to be looked at.\u201d<\/em><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><strong>Quoting a study by Dr Willie Stewart:<\/strong><br><br><em>\u201cWillie Stewart analysed that football players are 3.5 times more likely to develop dementia than the general public and so on. So there&#8217;s lot more work to be done, but what is important and the point you&#8217;ve raised, is that the focus is now on this topic, and very, very, very closely.\u201d <\/em><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><strong>Speaking about his own experience with dementia and his teammates:<\/strong><br><br><em>\u201cI&#8217;m involved with Alzheimer&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a personal issue for me with my teammates. Sadly, many of them are no longer with us because of dementia. And more recently of course, Sir Bobby Charlton and his wife Norma, coming out and stating that he is suffering with dementia. <\/em><br><br><em>And it really is, in terms of an illness and a condition, it&#8217;s up there with probably the worst. Not even necessarily just for the person but also for the impact it has on the family.\u201d<\/em><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Full Transcript:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>I wanted to ask you about something else, which is a quite serious subject, about the effect of dementia in the game, and a number of players who have been impacted by it. Why do you think it&#8217;s taken such a long time for the rest of the game to catch up and talk about it in this serious way? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a difficult thing to answer really. It has been going on\nfor some time. But it&#8217;s been a gradual process, more and more high-profile\npeople are gradually coming out. It started, of course, with Geoff Haswell and\nhis daughter, Dawn, some time ago who fully believed and was examined to say\nthat it is an issue. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s difficult to answer why, but it certainly is overdue for it\nto be discussed. And it&#8217;s a very difficult subject to analyse because\nmedically, they&#8217;re still saying that there needs to be more medical research\ninvolved with Alzheimer&#8217;s, even as we speak. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the profile is important because it needs to be addressed. It\nneeds to be addressed on two points. One, whether the amount of practice at\nclubs, and I&#8217;m talking about my position at West Ham, we had a ball in the gym hanging\nfrom the ceiling where you\u2019d spend half an hour heading a ball constantly. Then\nyou go on the pitch, and we used to obviously work very hard at near-post\ncrosses. You could spend 20 minutes, half hour on that. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So that&#8217;s got to be looked at in terms of the amount of practice,\nparticularly with the balls being much heavier in those days. Alan Shearer\u2019s documentary analysed that\nwhen it was wet, our ball was much heavier than the current ball. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And secondly, whether you should look at stopping younger kids now,\nwhen they\u2019re just 10 years of age, not heading the ball particularly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You can&#8217;t argue that headings should be taken out, but you can\nargue quite strongly that when senior players practice at clubs, they can do a\nlot of practice without getting in position in the crossing,<\/strong>\nand practicing how they\u2019re going to approach things without necessarily\nconstantly knocking the ball in and heading the ball. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can set up positions, maybe have two or three where you knock\nthe ball in, but as long as you set up positionally, that&#8217;s where we&#8217;re going\nto be on the Saturday. That can be reduced. Certainly, the practice that we had\nconstantly, for example we played head tennis at the gym, that was one of our\npractices. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So we&#8217;d head a ball in the gym, then we&#8217;d practice with five a\nside, so we did a lot of heading. A lot of it not to the detriment, again,\ncould be stopped and reduced quite considerably. <strong>Somebody&#8217;s talked about\nhaving a day of rest during the week where you don&#8217;t practice heading, one or\ntwo days. Agreed, that would also reduce the impact. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And you can&#8217;t stop the heading in the game, but I think you\nwouldn&#8217;t affect the game by restricting stuff, and you still went through the\npractices without finally heading the ball 30 or 40 times. <strong>You can still\nachieve the objective of where you want to be for a corner or a free kick. That\ncan be done positionally without the huge amount of heading. So that&#8217;s\ncertainly got to be looked at.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Because I guess when you&#8217;re training as well, you&#8217;re not going in 100% of the tackles. You&#8217;re not going in 100% on some of the other moves. So you can also reduce the heading element as you mentioned. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Good point. Good point. Yes, you don&#8217;t\nnecessarily when you have a five a side try to kick the lumps out of everybody.\nAbsolutely, so that can be done without any detriment on the game at all. <strong>It\nis such a complex and complicated subject because the issue with people like Nobby\n(Stiles), and what they call CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy), they analysed\npeople&#8217;s brains saying that if you head the ball regularly, there is this\ncondition called CTE. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are other forms of dementia, and vascular dementia, and I&#8217;m\nnot an expert so I&#8217;m not going to roll on too much about this. But there <strong>was\nWillie Stewart, the guy in Scotland, who analysed that football players are 3.5\ntimes more likely to develop dementia than the general public and so on. So\nthere&#8217;s lot more work to be done, but what is important and the point you&#8217;ve\nraised, is that the focus is now on and very, very, very closely. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m involved with Alzheimer&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a personal issue for me\nwith my teammates. <strong>Sadly, many of them are no longer with us because of\ndementia. And more recently, of course, Sir Bobby Charlton. His wife, Norma,\ncoming out and stating that he is suffering with dementia. And it really is, in\nterms of an illness and a condition, it&#8217;s up there with probably the worst. Not\neven necessarily just for the person but also for the impact it has on the\nfamily. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And I&#8217;ve gone through that with Martin and his wife Kathy who, as she has done for 60 years, she speaks to my wife every day. So, although there\u2019s nobody in my immediate family, we&#8217;ve lived as close to a family and people living with somebody with that condition than as many other people. <strong>It&#8217;s awful. But the focus is on it now, and that&#8217;s good. That&#8217;s very good.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>If you\u2019d like to hear more of Sir Geoff Hurst\u2019s thoughts on the current state of football in the UK, you can find more exclusive interviews discussing topics such as&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/blog\/exclusive-sir-geoff-hurst-interview\/\" target=\"_blank\">England\u2019s chances at the EURO 2020 tournament<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/blog\/sir-geoff-hurst-interview-west-ham\/\" target=\"_blank\">West Ham\u2019s recent success<\/a><\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>the impact of <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"technology in football (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/blog\/sir-geoff-hurst-interview-var\/\" target=\"_blank\">technology in football<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We sit down with England\u2019s 1966 World Cup final hat-trick hero, Sir Geoff Hurst, to discuss the issue of dementia&nbsp;&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":43,"featured_media":28123,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Sir Geoff Hurst On The Issue Of Dementia In Football Players<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"We chat with Sir Geoff Hurst about the issue of dementia in football players, and what should be done to help prevent this problem moving forward.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Sir Geoff Hurst On The Issue Of Dementia In Football Players\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Sir Geoff Hurst discusses the issue of dementia in football players, and what action should be taken to address the problem. 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