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By: ted

ted — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:45:00 +0000

In reply to Michael J. McFadden. Some of the groups wont be happy until it is illegal to smoke. The war on smoking will work just as well as the war on drugs.

By: Michael J. McFadden

Michael J. McFadden — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:02:00 +0000

In reply to ted.

If you live in an apartment, retirement community, or row-home you may not be able to do that in the near future either Ted.

– MJM

By: Michael J. McFadden

Michael J. McFadden — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:58:00 +0000

In reply to ted.

Not just the government, but the front organizations paid from the $500 million/year MSA “smokers’ tax” funds and the officials running those organizations. If the government proved immune, then those organizations and people could be sued independently.

– MJM

By: ted

ted — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:29:00 +0000

In reply to Michael J. McFadden. You mean suing the govt for destructive laws. Good idea, but dont bet more than a few cents on it.

By: ted

ted — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:24:00 +0000

In reply to Michael J. McFadden. Do they allow you the Free Choice of casino gambling online? I dont worry about any racetrack smoking policies when I bet horses online.

By: Michael J. McFadden

Michael J. McFadden — Mon, 25 Apr 2016 02:05:00 +0000

“Harrah’s Casino said it has seen the brunt of it, reporting a $35 million dollar decline in revenue.” The tax-funded and well-paid Antismokers got the ban in with rock solid promises that hordes of thirsty, hungry, gambling nonsmokers who were previously cowering in their homes would fill the casinos to overflowing with their piles of hoarded gold.

They were lying about that just as they lie about almost everything else in getting their bans in place. Harrah’s should take them to court and sue them for damages based on the amount of losses as opposed to what neutral economists examining nearby casinos without bans would project if the ban hadn’t been forced on them through the lies.

Taking it directly out of the pockets of the organizations AND THE PEOPLE responsible for the losses might prevent a repeat of the situation and perhaps open the way for reparations for similar losses elsewhere (E.G. Illinois’ casino losses of 22% in the year after their ban while the casinos in the three surrounding states **ALL** showed **INCREASES** in that same year!)

Antismokers should be forced to put their money where their mouths are as they roam around destroying the lives and livelihoods of honest people!

– MJM

By: Michael J. McFadden

Michael J. McFadden — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 22:57:00 +0000

In reply to Clay Condrey. Really Clay? Want to tell us what you base that opinion on? For the record, nope, not only aren't we the same person, we've never even met!

By: Clay Condrey

Clay Condrey — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 22:33:00 +0000

Michael J. McFadden and Vinny Gracchus are the same person. He spends all his time commenting on smoking-related message boards. Get a life, Michael/Vinny.

By: Vinny Gracchus

Vinny Gracchus — Tue, 19 Apr 2016 23:12:00 +0000

Smoking bans should be amended to allow both smoking and non-smoking options.

By: Michael J. McFadden

Michael J. McFadden — Tue, 19 Apr 2016 19:29:00 +0000

It would make sense to allow one or two of the casinos to also allow 25 or 50% of their dining/drinking areas to be Free Choice as well, but the raving Antismokers would never allows such an experiment of course: the Free casinos’ revenues would quickly show the lie to the Antismokers’ claims. Just note the nonsensical statement from Louisiana Campaign for Tobacco-Free Living Associate Director Tonia Moore in the box between the stories on NOLA’s Harrah’s and the situation in Pennsylvania.

A few years ago when Illinois banned smoking in its casinos their revenue plunged by 22% while the three surrounding states with no bans all saw their casino takes actually INCREASE.

Antismoking researchers and organizations lie about the effects of smoking bans and *also* lie about there being any sort of actually significant threat from ordinary levels of smoking in decently ventilated establishments. All they care about is the Endgame: eliminating smokers: any lies or wrongs or damage along the way is just treated as incidental since “The End Justifies The Means.”

See https://bit.ly/SmokingBanLies for a more detailed examination of the most popular lies that they push in getting these bans and then think about the amount of damage they’ve caused in various ways.

– MJM